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Kyle Case: Hello and welcome to the Hudson World Senior Games Active Life. My name is Kyle Case, and I'll be your host on this amazing journey as we attempt to help you get the most out of your life. Joining me in the studio today is my copilot, Jeff Harding. Jeff, how are you doing today?

Jeff Harding: I am amazing, Kyle, just simply amazing.

Kyle Case: I know that to be true of you. In all of our years together I have observed that you are truly amazing.

Jeff Harding: I don't know ...

Kyle Case: You don't know what to say to that.

Jeff Harding: That had a tinge of sarcasm to it so I'm just not sure how to take it. But thank you Kyle! How are you, how are you?

Kyle Case: I'm doing good but there was no sarcasm there, none whatsoever.

Jeff Harding: Okay, great. Appreciate that.

Kyle Case: But yes, I'm doing great, thanks for asking.

Kyle Case: So Jeff.

Jeff Harding: Yes?

Kyle Case: Did you know that this week is National Falls Prevention Week?

Jeff Harding: I didn't know it was this week, but I did know there was a National Falls Prevention Week.

Kyle Case: It's this week, this is the week.

Jeff Harding: And I haven't fallen once this week, so I am keeping up with the joneses.

Kyle Case: Well congratulations on that.

Jeff Harding: Well thank you.

Kyle Case: September 22nd happens to be the first day of fall.

Jeff Harding: Of course.

Kyle Case: You see what they did there.

Jeff Harding: They tied it right in with the equinox.

Kyle Case: You see how they did that. So anyway, I wanna talk just a little bit about falls, very briefly, and maybe a couple of things that we can all do to ideally avoid them, like you have been doing so all this week.

Jeff Harding: Definitely all week, yeah.

Kyle Case: Yeah. So the first thing I wanna point out, the first thing is that falls can happen to anybody.

Jeff Harding: Yes they can.

Kyle Case: And unfortunately-

Jeff Harding: Anywhere.

Kyle Case: ... As we get older, they can be pretty serious.

Jeff Harding: Oh yeah.

Kyle Case: So I'm gonna share some data with you. The data's actually from 2014, so it's a couple of years old, but it's still relevant today.

Jeff Harding: And it's still data.

Kyle Case: And it's still data. The first thing is that one in four older adults report a fall. One in four report a fall.

Jeff Harding: My mom's been falling more and more lately, she's in her 80s-

Kyle Case: Has she?

Jeff Harding: ... And she's had a propensity for falling, so that does happen.

Kyle Case: Ah, I'm sorry, yeah, that's a tough on. More than 27,000 older adults died as a result of falls. That's 74 older adults every day that pass on because of a fall.

Jeff Harding: That's scary isn't it?

Kyle Case: And among older Americans, falls are the number one cause of death from injury, and they're also the number one cause of injury. So it's serious.

Jeff Harding: It is. It's a real problem.

Kyle Case: It's a big deal we need to be aware of, and unfortunately as we age and as we get older, we have a tendency to fall more. For example, 65-74 year olds report, 27% of them reported a fall. 75-84 had 30% of them reporting a fall, and 85 plus had 37% reporting a fall. And I wanna just point out that those are reported falls, to their doctors. So there's lots of people who go down and they bounce right back up or whatever, they don't report even if they're hurt or whatever. So it's happening, it definitely is something that we need to be aware of.

Kyle Case: I wanna just share a few tips and things that we can all be aware of that maybe could help in that area. Falls don't have to be a normal part of getting older.

Jeff Harding: No.

Kyle Case: There are things that we can do. So the first thing that I wanna touch on is we need to speak up, and by that I mean talk openly with your doctor about fall risks as well as prevention. If you have fallen, you need to let your doctor know. If you're afraid that you might fall or if you feel unsteady, that's something that you'll wanna bring up with your doctor. Together you wanna review all of your medications and discuss any side effects that might come with that medication such as feeling dizzy or sleepy.

Jeff Harding: Right.

Kyle Case: And then also see if taking a vitamin D supplement might help improve your bone, muscle, and nerve health, and see if that's right for you. That's something that you can do with your doctor is speak up.

Jeff Harding: Yes, very important.

Kyle Case: Number two is to keep moving.

Jeff Harding: That's true.

Kyle Case: Activities, yeah, activities that strengthen your legs in particular and help with your balance could help you prevent falls, and there are things like Tai chi, and yoga, even just general activity. Lifting weights, running, swimming, all those things that help strengthen your muscles, those are gonna help you so that your propensity to fall is gonna be diminished, which is what we're shooting for here, right?

Jeff Harding: Right.

Kyle Case: The next one, simple one, is to check your eyes. If you're not seeing as clearly as you used to, maybe you're running into those obstacles on the floor and you're gonna go down, so they recommend that you have your vision checked at least once a year, and that you update your glasses as needed.

Jeff Harding: By that same point you need to be aware if you're wearing bifocals that it does affect your vision.

Kyle Case: Absolutely.

Jeff Harding: 'Cause I can't wear my bifocals hiking 'cause as I'm stepping over rocks, it's not where it's supposed to be.

Kyle Case: Yeah. And especially if you're brand new to bifocals, that takes some time to get used to that.

Jeff Harding: It does.

Kyle Case: Eyes are very important when it comes to falling, and then the last thing, just a few tips to make your home safe, because the fact is that most falls do happen at home, you wanna make sure that you keep your floors clutter-free, that you remove small rugs or at least tape them down or secure them in some way. That you add grab bars in the bathroom, that's a place where a lot of falls happen to happen. Have handrails and lights installed on all staircases, and then finally, in relation to lights, and speaking about lights, make sure that your home has lots of light so that you can see what's going on, and hopefully avoid those obstacles that might take you down.

Jeff Harding: Good, very true, yes.

Kyle Case: So, we celebrate National Falls Prevention Day on September 22nd. Hopefully those are just some ideas, some tips, some things that maybe can help keep us safe.

Jeff Harding: Sure.

Kyle Case: So today our guests, we're lucky to have a couple of guests with us, and we're looking forward to visiting with them. We have Dr. Jared Dupree, who is the founder of Southwest Healing and Wellness, which is an integrated clinic for pain, mood, addictions, as well as overall wellness. And joining Dr. Dupree is Koby Taylor, the founder and owner of Fusion Specialty Pharmacy, which is a compounding pharmacy dedicated to creative, individualized compound medications that among many other things can help reduce the overall cost of healthcare.

Kyle Case: Thanks to both of you gentlemen for joining us today, we're grateful that you're here.

Jared Dupree: Yeah, really excited to be here.

Koby Taylor: Yeah, thanks.

Kyle Case: So I wanna talk with Dr. Dupree just to get us started off here, we're gonna go back and forth between the two of you, but you work with a population that is interested in health and wellness. We've talked a little bit about falling; what have you seen with the people that you're working with that they're doing or that you recommend that might help them avoid these types of falls?

Jared Dupree: Yeah, so when I think about falls and wellness in general, it definitely needs to be a multifaceted approach, meaning there's not gonna be a single solution. And oftentimes, falls are really symptoms of other things.

Kyle Case: We found that, right? We found that.

Jared Dupree: Exactly. So if you can really look at the overall picture of nutrition, fitness, but even things like emotional relational health, you'd be surprised at how many people I worked with fall because they've been thinking about things and that's running through their mind is either emotional and relational thing, and stress can definitely impact more likely chance of falling and things like that.

Jared Dupree: And so to me, wellness is looking at all areas of life. So you wanna exercise, obviously, you wanna have good wellness, you wanna have those safety preventions in home, but in reality you just wanna be considering how to be well in all areas of your life.

Kyle Case: Awesome, I love that. I think that's great advice in relation to everything, not just falls but as you said, a whole picture approach is the way to go.

Kyle Case: So I wanna shift gears just a little bit, Koby, and maybe have you explain, because I don't really understand very well what is a compounding pharmacy, and how do you use one, why would you use one? Just, what is it? I don't really understand that very well.

Koby Taylor: Compounding's a way for a pharmacy to take a medication and deliver it in a different way. Sometimes people will have an allergy to ingredient in a commercially available product and we can take that out, so we can make it and customize it to you. But we offer a lot of solutions that you might not even know of or be aware of, and so we spend a lot of time educating providers and patients about different solutions. And so just probably the easiest way is just to explain different ways.

Koby Taylor: So sinuses, right? You can take something orally, and most times when you get a sinus infection a doctor will prescribe an oral solution for you, but if you've got an infection we can make a sinus rinse that you can use that puts the medication, antibiotic directly into the sinuses. It oftentimes will break that infection up faster, help rinse things out, than what an oral does. And you alleviate some of the side effects; you don't have all of the gut irritation, and diarrhea and things like that. So, lot of times-

Kyle Case: Any time we can avoid gut irritation and things like that? That's a positive thing.

Koby Taylor: I agree.

Kyle Case: Yeah.

Koby Taylor: So compounding's really a way for us to just customize something to you, and look at different solutions. We make a lot of creams, lotions, potions, chapstick, shampoo, different ways to get a drug or use a drug to solve a problem that you have struggled with for a long period of time.

Kyle Case: So that's helpful to me, because like I said I did not really understand very well at all what compounding is. So, and I'll also freely admit, I'm not the best consumer of our healthcare system. I don't ask the right questions, and I just ... I go to the doctor, they say, "Do this," and then I do it, and I don't ask, "What are the side effects?" I need to get better at that.

Kyle Case: But just to walk through a scenario, I go to the doctor and I have something, whatever it is, let's just say, I don't know, what would I have? Arthritis. Let's say I have arthritis. And he says, "You gotta take this strong pain medication that's gonna help you." I would bring that prescription to you, and then what happens then?

Koby Taylor: So if he wrote a commercially available product or a manufactured product, we would just fill that, just like a regular pharmacy would. But if there was something more that you wanted, so say you, he wrote you for Oxycontin, right? And you don't wanna take Oxycontin because-

Kyle Case: Yeah, 'cause we know that's a pretty serious one.

Koby Taylor: ... That's addictive, it increases falls, and so it has a lot of side effects, right? Constipation. Drowsiness. So a lot of times you can apply different medications topically and actually get pain relief from arthritis by doing it topically. So you can do a pain cream, we have over 600 formulas. So you have lots of different options that you could apply topically to help stop the pain conduction from a joint.

Kyle Case: Okay. Okay, so again, that's really interesting to me, and I think helpful.

Koby Taylor: So that opens the door for those kinds of conversations, and that's what we like.

Kyle Case: Awesome. Awesome, you're listening to the Huntsman World Senior Games Active Life, and we're visiting with Dr. Jared Dupree as well as Koby Taylor, and I wanna get into what we were really planning on talking about today, which is amino acid therapy. So just in a nutshell, what is amino acid therapy and why is it important?

Jared Dupree: Yeah, amino acid therapy, it's actually been around for quite a long time and it's got a lot more popularity probably in the last five to 10 years, mainly because the research has come out and said, "Wow, this is something really effective and something to look at." Amino acid therapy in a nutshell is an alternative, over-the-counter way to help deal with things that are impacting our body that come from the brain. Could be things like mood, focus, sleep, even things like blood sugars, high energy, that type of a thing. Aminos are natural, they come from our food. They're the building blocks of our neurotransmitters and most of them come from proteins. And so if people use aminos for these types of things there's very little side effects, and the other neat thing is it doesn't take a couple weeks for the body to react to it. It takes 20 minutes to feel the effect, so you can-

Kyle Case: That is a good thing.

Jared Dupree: Yeah, absolutely. So it's a different type of approach to where people are starting to listen to their body and say, "Hey, these symptoms are suggesting I'm low on this amino or this neurotransmitter's off, let me take these aminos that works within 20 minutes," you don't have to take it for a lifetime, necessarily, you just take it until the symptoms are gone.

Jared Dupree: And so we can get more in detail into what that all means, but I've seen some of the best results I've seen in my whole career with aminos.

Kyle Case: Wow. So again I'm totally ignorant to this but what does an amino acid look like? Is it a pill, is it an injection, what is it?

Koby Taylor: Most of them are capsules or powders, so those are kinda the primary source. So you are taking them orally. There's different dosage forms, but for the most part it's just, they're very simple. They don't have a lot of flavor, or scents, or anything like that so they're really well tolerated. It's like Jared said, they're in your body so it's what you get out of your food. And there's ... Some of the amino acids, the only way that we can, we don't have the ability to produce them, we have to get them from our food, and so if you don't have the building blocks you can't build the neurotransmitters or you can't build some of those things, and even some medications will fail if you don't have the amino acids there in the first place to actually have things work. And so sometimes it can even enhance your medications that you're on.

Kyle Case: So, give me an example of symptoms that you might be feeling where you should be asking that question, "I wonder if I'm missing an amino acid in my life?"

Jared Dupree: Yeah. So, common ones is definitely mood, so low energy, feeling down, things that are similar to depression but someone might not actually have depression, they just might feel depressed-

Kyle Case: Just kinda blah, huh?

Jared Dupree: ... Yeah, kinda blah. Or the other side of it is being irritable, anxious, worrying a lot, that's a common one, problems getting to sleep or even waking up in the middle of the night not being able to get back to sleep is another common area. We also can tell by food cravings. So food cravings will actually tell us what amino you're off on.

Kyle Case: So what if you just really want Oreos? Is that an amino acid deficiency or is that just a weakness?

Jared Dupree: Well, there's a couple ... No, no, no, there's a couple possibilities because oftentimes the body is craving something that the amino could provide, but in order to get quick relief you go to the Oreo or whatever. But I oftentimes tell people if they have a really strong craving, Mountain Dew's a common one I hear all the time, or Coke, that's another common one, or ice cream, or chips, or those types of things, I tell them, "Take the amino, wait 20 minutes, see if it works." I promise you the craving will go away, first of all, and then the amino will provide what your body was really wanting, which wasn't really the Oreo, it was wanting energy or whatever is needed. And so a lot of people actually originally started using aminos for weight loss, 'cause it helped address food cravings, but what we discovered is weight loss was a great thing but really more so than not is the impact on energy, mood, sleep, and things like that.

Kyle Case: Again, your overall wellness, which is what we're shooting for, right?

Jared Dupree: And I guess the other one I didn't mention is pain, people have a pain condition or an injury, it's almost always their endorphins are gonna be low, they're depleted because your body's in pain, and when your body's in pain it releases endorphins but it takes quite awhile for it to get back up to par. And so an amino can give you what you need for those endorphins immediately to help you deal with the pain.

Kyle Case: Awesome. So you mentioned that you can take amino acids as a supplement, you can also find them in your foods. Are there specific foods that are higher in amino acids that you might wanna be looking at?

Koby Taylor: You'll see it in proteins, so I mean any type of protein has amino acids in it. But what we find is sometimes though people have, they have a difficult breaking down some of the proteins especially as we age, and so oftentimes if we can identify the specific amino acid that you're deficient in, and we can give you a boost of that just that single sourced amino acid in either a powder or a capsule, we can get you to repair and heal a lot faster than trying to overload the body with a bunch of steak.

Kyle Case: Although overloading the body with a bunch of steak-

Koby Taylor: You like that idea? You're like-

Kyle Case: It sounds intriguing, right?

Jared Dupree: Yeah in reality, kinda going with Koby, you'd have to eat 10 tons of food to get the amount of aminos that you need sometimes.

Kyle Case: Really?

Jared Dupree: Oh yeah. I mean you're not gonna always get it, so if you're really depleted, we can give you that single capsule and get you back up to par really quickly rather than waiting a week or two before you get enough aminos. Or you may never get them enough.

Kyle Case: And you're just in that constant state of just not quite right, not as well as you could be.

Koby Taylor: Right, absolutely.

Kyle Case: So you've kind of alluded to this but I just, I want to just maybe clarify, we say amino acids, so obviously there's multiple amino acids. Without getting too deep into chemistry, do we know how many there are, and obviously we know which ones there are and how to kind of point out that this amino maybe is good for this symptom and maybe a different one is good for something else. Is that something that we know?

Jared Dupree: Oh yeah.

Koby Taylor: Oh yeah. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jared Dupree: Yeah, we know quite a bit about ... I'll say a little bit about it and pass it off to Koby the chemist here, but a lot of the amino acid solutions that we've developed ... Well not us necessarily, but that we've sourced are actually blends of multiple aminos that address a certain symptom. So I usually ... We have a checklist and we do an interview, and there are a few of us trained down here, but I'm one of the few trained, and there's a couple other colleagues in town that you do an hour-long interview and I can get pretty down to what you need-

Kyle Case: Pretty specific, yeah.

Jared Dupree: ... Oh yeah. And that's gonna be more based on symptoms. And so I'll go through a whole bunch of symptoms and then be able to tailor the type of aminos that you need and when to take them. That's the other thing. Aminos usually only last about four hours, and so sometimes people need to take aminos in the morning, in the afternoon, that type of thing, but. Koby what do you think?

Koby Taylor: Yeah, so there are several. There's essential amino acids and nonessential amino acids. Some we can actually produce in our body but there's others that the only way we get it is by taking it in, and we know, so like glutamine is the building block for your intestinal lining. It also helps with blood sugar issues as well, 5HTP is the building block for serotonin, or tryptophan, those can be used to actually build, increase serotonin which can help with mood. So we know specifics about amino acids and kinda what they do, and what they symptoms that are there to help. And then you can do combinations, and a lot of people know, if they're exercise a lot, they're doing the pre-workout drinks and things like that, they all have amino acids in them. They used taurine, or isoleucine, or those individual ingredients in those, if you look at those, they're packed full of amino acids. So.

Kyle Case: I was just gonna mention that, I have a son who's really into bodybuilding and he's got all kinds of powders in our pantry, and amino acids is written across all of them, so if you're an athlete and you're attempting to increase performance, whether that's a body builder, or a runner, or a swimmer, do you recommend some kind of amino acid therapy as part of your overall workout?

Jared Dupree: I do, I think its' great for pre-performance. I don't actually recommend a lot of the ... Nothing against them, but I don't recommend all the bodybuilding workout, there's a lot of stuff in there, caffeine's in there, things that actually have a lot of pretty bad side effects, you've just gotta be careful. So I actually prefer giving someone just the amino and just the one that they need.

Jared Dupree: And so for example, for those that are gonna do some type of long distance, more endurance type of a thing? Glutamine definitely is gonna be something you wanna take that day, 'cause it's gonna help regulate your sugars as well as help you be able to endure. The other thing is DPL, it deals a lot with pain, endorphins. So if you have injury, I would take that for sure before you start working out, or even post-workout, that's gonna help you alleviate some of that pain. Once again, because you're going directly to the source, you're not going through the gut, and having to spread out to all these things and eventually reach your brain, 'cause it's in our body already. It's gonna be pretty quick results.

Jared Dupree: And those are a few examples, but pre-performance, post-performance, I definitely recommend it.

Kyle Case: So, recovery day as well, you go, you run your marathon, you swim your meet, you play your soccer match or whatever, we all train for that and we get ready for that but the day after we're always all sore. We're all sore. So an amino acid could be something that could help alleviate some of that?

Koby Taylor: Helps with the recovery, absolutely.

Jared Dupree: Yeah. I definitely do DPL, for anyone in pain.

Kyle Case: Awesome.

Jared Dupree: Which is really hard to find, actually. It took us forever to find it at source, but I think you're the only one in town that has it, I think. That I know of.

Kyle Case: So let's talk about where you can find that. Koby, tell us a little bit about where you're at and how people can find you.

Koby Taylor: We have two locations; we're on the corner of Sunset and Canyon View Drive in Santa Clara, and then we have a brand new pharmacy on Riverside Drive in the new medical building that's right there by Heritage Elementary.

Kyle Case: And that is Fusion Specialty Pharmacy.

Koby Taylor: Mm-hmm (affirmative), correct.

Kyle Case: Now we do have listeners from all around the country that listen to the podcast; is there a way that they can find it outside of the local area? Is there usually a resource, or how do people find it outside of our area?

Koby Taylor: We actually ship to lots of states, so-

Kyle Case: Okay, so that's an option.

Koby Taylor: ... We'll ship directly to people, but they can also ... Usually, most nutritional stores will have most of the amino acids, not always in the forms that we prefer or like, so, but we can help somebody source that if they're looking, but.

Kyle Case: Is it something you can go to Walmart and buy, or that's not the place where you can find it?

Jared Dupree: Not usually.

Kyle Case: Okay.

Jared Dupree: No, it's usually, more likely find it at ... Like, here locally would be like, a Dixie Nutrition or something like that.

Koby Taylor: Again, they still don't have everything, so specific, and the doses we want or in the forms we want.

Jared Dupree: We also, through Southwest Healing Wellness offer online consults, and so we actually recommend doing a consult to ... It's hard to figure out what you need sometimes, and so if they wanna do an online we can do that from anywhere in the country.

Kyle Case: Okay.

Jared Dupree: So that's available too.

Kyle Case: So, websites, how do they find you?

Jared Dupree: Southwest Healing Wellness is, so that's Southwest Healing Wellness,

Koby Taylor: We're

Kyle Case: Okay, awesome. So we've just got 30 seconds. Any final advice that you might offer to somebody who's experiencing just kind of a blah outlook or response, and what would you tell those people?

Jared Dupree: Most of the people I've met with lately, I've met like 100 patients in the last two, three months that have done really well with this is they either feel guilty, or they feel like something's wrong with them. And what I'm finding is that's not true. They just don't have the right solution, and this is a simple, low-risk solution, I'd say just give it a try.

Kyle Case: Awesome. Awesome. Something to consider for sure, so amino acids worth looking into. Check with your healthcare professional, take a look at your local pharmacies and see if it's available there, and just get informed. And then again, websites, one more time for those who are outside the area?

Jared Dupree:

Koby Taylor: And

Kyle Case: Excellent. Thank you both for joining us, we appreciate your time and what you shared with us today.

Jeff Harding: Very informative.

Kyle Case: So Jeff.

Jeff Harding: Yes sir.

Kyle Case: As you know, registration for the Huntsmen World Senior Games is officially closed, and has been for a few weeks.

Jeff Harding: That door is shut.

Kyle Case: Yeah, it is definitely done. However, you can still participate in the Huntsmen World Senior Games as a volunteer.

Jeff Harding: That's right.

Kyle Case: We need a ton of help volunteering, and it's a great way to get involved. It's easy to do, all you have to do is visit, and click on the volunteer button. And Jeff, as you know, there are many, many ways to get involved and help out.

Jeff Harding: Oh, yes.

Kyle Case: The dates of the Huntsmen World Senior Games this year are October 8th through the 20th, and we need about 3,000 volunteers to help us pull this event off. So if you have time available on any of those dates and we have opportunities before those dates as well-

Jeff Harding: That's right.

Kyle Case: ... Check out, click on that volunteer button, and see if there's something that you can do to get involved with this amazing event.

Kyle Case: Also don't miss the Huntsmen World Senior Games opening ceremonies.

Jeff Harding: Lots of fun.

Kyle Case: Plan on attending Tuesday, October 9th at 7:00 PM at Dixie State University's Trailblazer Stadium. Jeff, you've been to the show before-

Jeff Harding: Yes I have.

Kyle Case: ... You know, it's a ton of fun, we're gonna have singing, we're gonna have dancing, we're gonna have the parade of athletes, we're gonna have fireworks. It really is an outstanding show.

Jeff Harding: It is, it is.

Kyle Case: And best of all it's free, so bring your family, bring your whole neighborhood, we've got lots of seating at Dixie State University. Remember to tune in live next and every Thursday at 5:30 PM Mountain Time on AM 1450 or FM 93.1 for the Huntsmen World Senior Games Active Life. And you can also subscribe to our podcast pretty much anywhere podcasts are available, including iTunes, Google, Stitcher, anywhere that you find podcasts you'll find us there. Once you've subscribed, give us a rating, and help us spread the word.

Kyle Case: Jeff, our inspirational thought for the day from tennis great Arthur Ashe.

Jeff Harding: Oh, great.

Kyle Case: He says, "Start where you are, use what you have, do what you can." Until next Thursday, stay active.

Jeff Harding: Bye everyone!