Listen to Podcast  September 13th at 7:00 pm Webinar with Julie Hansen, Registered dietician and Exercise Physiologist

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Jeff Harding: Hello and welcome to Huntsman World Senior Games Active Life. My name is Jeff Harding. I'm sitting in for Kyle Case. Joining me in the studio today is Michelle Graves. Michelle, how are you?

Michelle Graves: Hi, Jeff. I'm doing great.

Jeff Harding: Great. You're looking well, Michelle. You're looking very well.

Michelle Graves: Well thank you. Too bad no one can see me, but I feel well.

Jeff Harding: Yes. People tell me I have a face for radio.

Michelle Graves: I think I might too. I'll take that as a compliment.

Jeff Harding: So Michelle, I know that you're a healthy person. You like to exercise, but have you ever tried a fitness fad that failed?

Michelle Graves: Probably. Haven't we all?

Jeff Harding: I think there's a good chance, but there's an article by Jordan Shakeshaft that lists the top 17, about top 15 failure fitness fads. So I thought we should discuss some of those.

Michelle Graves: Okay.

Jeff Harding: You ready?

Michelle Graves: I'll tell you if I've done any of them.

Jeff Harding: Alright. According to Shakeshaft, between shape-ups, sauna suits, and the infamous Shake Weights, it seems like there is no gizmo or gadget or get skinny quick scheme that we won't try as a human race, or as the people of America. In fact, Americans spend upwards of 30 billion dollars a year on weight loss products. That's amazing, isn't it? Clearly those late night infomercials are working or doing something right. But as the saying goes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. So here's the list.

Michelle Graves: Okay, I just wanna say, I used to have a neighbor that really bought any of those things that came about. So I don't think that I've tried a lot, but she tried them all and then reported to me. So you've already made me kind of chuckle in memory of her.

Jeff Harding: Well the first one is the Shake Weight. You know the thing that you just, it's two and a half pounds, and you shake back and forth, little dumbbell type thing.

Michelle Graves: Yeah, wouldn't that be great. What does that shaking do? The sound or something makes you fitter?

Jeff Harding: Well apparently it does nothing, but muscle tension. You're doing it both directions I guess.

Michelle Graves: Okay.

Jeff Harding: So that's number one. The number two is the Free Flexor, which was a dumbbell that had a spring on it that the top would just roll around, and the bottom ... So it had two balls on the end. You can have just-

Michelle Graves: I don't know. I'm to familiar with that one.

Jeff Harding: I wasn't either. I-

Michelle Graves: They should bring that back.

Jeff Harding: I saw a picture of it on the internet, and it was like really weird looking.

Michelle Graves: Okay.

Jeff Harding: Number three is vibrating platforms. The ones you stand on, and they shake you. And you're supposed to use muscle density and stuff.

Michelle Graves: Now when I was in the fitness industry as a manager, those were really popular for a while and kind of backed by some research, but it's weird they've kind of just gone away.

Jeff Harding: The next one is sauna suits.

Michelle Graves: Yes.

Jeff Harding: The big puffy things people walk around in.

Michelle Graves: Thank goodness we don't do that anymore-

Michelle Graves: 'Cause I mean, did that kill people? Imagine in St. George where the climate is so hot wearing that.

Jeff Harding: You wouldn't want to do it in the summer for sure.

Michelle Graves: That'd be tough.

Jeff Harding: Of course, you don't need a sauna suit down here in the summer.

Michelle Graves: You would sweat. That's for sure.

Jeff Harding: You are in a sauna in the summer.

Michelle Graves: Exactly.

Jeff Harding: Number five is the '8 Minute Abs'. There was a program that did '8 Minute Abs'. It doesn't matter how many times you do that, in eight minutes you're not gonna get great abs. You have to do everything else along with it.

Michelle Graves: I don't know. '8 Minute Abs' sounds awesome.

Jeff Harding: Well, if it really worked.

Michelle Graves: That sounds like just the right amount for me.

Jeff Harding: If it really worked, it would. The next one is called Exercise In A Bottle. It was a pill you took that was supposed to give you better muscle tone and stuff.

Michelle Graves: Oh, now we're talking.

Jeff Harding: Yeah. No. So these are dreams. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. The next one is toning shoes. Apparently, they have a ball on the bottom, so you have to spend a lot of energy trying to keep yourself from falling over.

Michelle Graves: Oh, like a balance tool?

Jeff Harding: Well, kind of, but they're just shoes. You walk on them, but they're rounded. So the soul is rounded instead of flat.

Michelle Graves: Okay, and they profess to do what? Get you in better shape?

Jeff Harding: Yes. I'm assuming that they're saying that you're using muscles to hold yourself up. So you're always using those muscles. That's what they're professing.

Michelle Graves: Sounds like it could be a little dangerous for ankle rolling.

Jeff Harding: Yep. The next one is energy bracelets. Those little bracelets that you put on that had a metal in them or something that was supposed to magical. Give you balance and strength.

Michelle Graves: Oh yeah. There's some people that still adhere to that.

Jeff Harding: Yep. The next one is the Ab Rocket.

Michelle Graves: Yes. That was a TV infomercial.

Jeff Harding: You remember that from infomercial?

Michelle Graves: Yes.

Jeff Harding: Yeah, it was. The next one was called big wheeled skates, which is really weird. On the inside, it looked like roller skates. On the outside, it was a huge wheel that was like a foot in diameter. I don't know what the purpose of that was, but-

Michelle Graves: I'm not familiar with that one either.

Jeff Harding: I'm not either, but that was-

Michelle Graves: We'll have to google some of these.

Jeff Harding: Well I've actually seen all these because the article had pictures of them, but some of them I hadn't heard of before this article. The next one is the Thigh Master. Think of Suzanne Summers.

Michelle Graves: Oh, totally. I think I had a Thigh Master. I'm sad to say. Yeah, that was a big one.

Jeff Harding: The next one is titanium bracelets.

Michelle Graves: Okay, along the same lines as the magnets.

Jeff Harding: Yeah, as the other one. It's supposed to be metal and frequencies and stuff. Yeah. And the last one, and I'd never heard of these, but they actually had a picture of them, dumbbell utensils for eating. So you have weighted utensils for eating. So I guess you have to work twice as hard to get the food to your mouth. You're doing some exercise.

Michelle Graves: Or it's worth it to eat so much more because you're working out while eating. Wow.

Jeff Harding: I don't think they weigh that much.

Michelle Graves: That might not be the plan?

Jeff Harding: No. Well, I think that's the concept, but I don't think that's how it really works. So there you have it. The 15 biggest flops of exercise fads.

Michelle Graves: I don't know. I think we should bring some of these back, Jeff. That was fun.

Jeff Harding: Well, as long as we keep them as novelty acts and not as true items of health, then we're probably okay.

Michelle Graves: Yes. Yes. We don't want to profess false fitness.

Jeff Harding: And speaking of true fitness-

Michelle Graves: True fitness.

Jeff Harding: True fitness, we have joining us by phone from Ogden, a registered dietitian and exercise physiologist. Her name is Julie Hansen. Julie, how are you?

Julie Hansen: I'm good. It was fun to hear those lists of exercise toys.

Michelle Graves: Do you remember some of them, Julie?

Julie Hansen: Well, I'm thinking what happened to the Thigh Master? That wasn't in there.

Jeff Harding: Well the Thigh Master was number 11.

Julie Hansen: Oh, it was number 11. Okay. Sorry. I guess I missed that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's always a good white elephant gift.

Michelle Graves: No kidding. No kidding.

Jeff Harding: That's exactly what the guy in the article says. He said some of these probably had big sales because it had white elephant written all over it.

Michelle Graves: Yeah.

Julie Hansen: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Good. That was fun.

Jeff Harding: But that aside, I think we're gonna get some truly good, valuable information talking with Julie because, as we said, she is a dietitian and an exercise physiologist. She's a registered dietitian and an exercise physiologist. So I think we all know what a registered dietitian is. What is an exercise physiologist, Julie?

Julie Hansen: Well, my dad always thought, oh are you gonna teach P.E.? No, that's not exactly what I do, but exercise physiologist, usually when you use that term, you have a master's degree in exercise science or physiology, exercise physiology. And so we do exercise prescription. So we can help people. We can do fitness testing, and then prescribe exercise for them.

Jeff Harding: So what it is, I'm just assuming that it's understanding how the muscles, and the body, and the sinews and everything, how they work together to accomplish the goals.

Julie Hansen: Yeah. I used to do a lot of fitness testing, VO2 max testing. All that kind of stuff. Yes.

Jeff Harding: I think you might find this interesting. We had a lady that used to help with our health screenings, and she had a body age test that used all those things to see how old you were chronologically versus ... You're actual age versus your chronological age, and it was amazing. We also found out that our soccer players were the youngest actual age versus their chronological age, their age in years.

Julie Hansen: Interesting. They're versatile athletes for sure.

Jeff Harding: Well they are, and they run a lot.

Michelle Graves: Yeah, we learned that last week in our show.

Julie Hansen: Okay. Good.

Jeff Harding: So Julie, let's get right into the meat of things.

Julie Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff Harding: From the diet side.

Michelle Graves: Like should we eat meat? Is that your question?

Jeff Harding: Well, go ahead.

Michelle Graves: I'm just kidding.

Julie Hansen: Well, you know what I want to talk about today is intuitive eating, and it's questions like that Michelle, that I get all the time.

Michelle Graves: I bet.

Julie Hansen: What should I eat? What should I avoid? And if you guys even think back to your last meal, where did you eat it? What time did you eat it? Were you watching TV? Were you on your phone? Were you sitting at your desk?

Jeff Harding: Yes, I was.

Julie Hansen: If you can remember what your last meal was. I think there's a lot of distracted eating that goes on, but when I have clients in my office, they are always ... They come in with athletes, and they wanna increase their training or getting ready for an event. They just have a lot of questions like that, and I would say 90% of them are restricting something in their diet that they really need, which is usually carbohydrates. So they come in, and it's like, I tried the keto diet. Or I tried the whole 30 and the paleo, and they've tried all these things.

Julie Hansen: It usually doesn't really work very well if you're an athlete because we have to have carbohydrates. I just think there's all this distraction, not only with eating, but also with, I always call it, seeing shiny things. If I just do this diet, then I'm gonna get better because so-and-so did it.

Michelle Graves: We all want that magic, easy cure don't we?

Julie Hansen: I know. I know. And I think especially as we get older too, to try to make up for aging. But intuitive eating is a program that really has a lot of research behind it. There is a workbook, and I would encourage you guys to look at it and also a book by Evelyn Tribole. You guys can get it on Amazon. The workbook came out about a year and a half ago, and so I use that a lot with my clients. But it's basically a non-diet approach, and it is a way of eating that really works well for athletes because they have the capability of what we call interoceptive awareness where they can actually feel ... They should be able to feel their bodies when they're hungry, when they're full, and that's really what it works with.

Julie Hansen: So it's not a starvation diet. It is really based on three basic tenants, which is unconditional permission to eat. So I don't know Jeff, but...

Michelle Graves: Oh, I like that.

Jeff Harding: I like that. I like that for sure.

Julie Hansen: Alright. Alright you guys. Let me just tell you what this is. This is not an all you can eat buffet.

Jeff Harding: Oh, darn it.

Julie Hansen: This is ... I know right.

Jeff Harding: There's always that caveat, isn't there?

Julie Hansen: Yeah. But you know, a lot of people have that ... They don't even realize they're doing it, but they're chronic dieters. So they think if they have one cookie, they might as well have 10. That's because they never had permission to eat it in the first place and they see it as a bad food. So when you have good versus bad foods, then you become good versus bad. So we really try neutralize all foods, and believe it or not, when you give yourself the ability to make choices, that doesn't mean you're going to eat cookies all the time. It's probably not going to feel very good.

Jeff Harding: No.

Julie Hansen: So it's this unconditional permission to eat, which sometimes that's the hardest step with my clients to be able to really embrace that.

Jeff Harding: I think we, as humans, like those guilty pleasures. You know? It's like, I'm sneaky. I'm doing something. I'm doing something I shouldn't, but that's okay because I'll make up for it. But I'm going to do this now because it makes me feel good in the moment.

Michelle Graves: Well, I've always heard a diet in moderation is better than withholding things.

Julie Hansen: Right, but that doesn't sell books, does it?

Michelle Graves: I know. I know.

Julie Hansen: Moderation isn't sexy. It doesn't sell books, but it is a great way to live. I will say, yeah, you're right.

Michelle Graves: You know what, Julie? Along those lines, because this is something that I've always had trouble with because I want to eat intuitively, and I feel that I do, but I've always really gone against the grain of food journals and food diaries because I don't want to hyper focus on what I'm eating or feel bad about it. My kind of ... What I do is, we'll just exercise more. I can exercise myself out of a bad diet, and as I get older, I find that that's not really true. So having some self control is good, but what do you think about food journals and things like that?

Julie Hansen: Yeah, I think they can be used the wrong way, and that's for sure. I kind of need to know where a client's at with that, but with intuitive eating, sometimes I'll have them log their food. And then they monitor their hunger and fullness. So there's a hunger and fullness scale that starts from 0 to 10. So zero is absolutely famished, and 10 is like Thanksgiving full. And five is neutral. So we kind of guide clients into eating when they're at a two or three, and stop eating when they're at a six or seven.

Julie Hansen: So I don't know Michelle, that's kind of an interesting way to keep a food journal.

Jeff Harding: That really is.

Julie Hansen: To sort of monitor that. So how do you feel before you start eating? Are you at a five, and you're not really hungry. But you're eating? Then do you feel like you get to six or a seven. So eating towards a six or seven, I kind of call this the half a burrito from Costa Vida.

Michelle Graves: Yeah, that's a good marker.

Julie Hansen: You know, if you eat the whole burrito, that's really filling, but the half a burrito, you know you could eat more, but you're really going to be fine. And you'll be hungry again in like, two to three hours. So that's just a nice place to be, and it's really energizing.

Jeff Harding: But where's the challenge in that? Where's the challenge at stopping at half? You have a goal there. As an athlete, you have a goal. You want to accomplish the goal. The goal is the whole burrito.

Michelle Graves: Let's just say that Jeff's age was in the age of, you have to finish everything on your plate.

Jeff Harding: Oh yes. There's starving children in China that didn't get to eat.

Julie Hansen: Yes, lots of-

Jeff Harding: Because of the food, so I needed to eat it all.

Julie Hansen: But you guys, that's a huge thing. I mean, so that's what we're talking about. So it's changing those habits rather than going on a diet because a diet isn't ever really going to fix that 'cause you never really can stay on a diet for that long. So really working with, yeah, you can change the habit, and it's kind of developing an emotional muscle at the table because it's gonna feel like you've lost your best friend. If you just sit down, and I'm gonna challenge you on this Jeff, to eat a half a burrito and see what that feels like because it will be like, oh man. I could eat more, but if I stop now, what would that feel like? And I do some stuff like that with people. It's really interesting.

Jeff Harding: There are times when I've actually pushed myself away when I wasn't completely full to the point where I felt like I was gonna tip over, and you're right. I did feel better, but there was still that little thing in the back of my mind that said, "You left a half a burrito. You naughty boy. Shame on you. You left a half a burrito on the plate."

Julie Hansen: But wouldn't you take it? Wouldn't you take it home and eat it later?

Jeff Harding: Well, I'm usually at home when I'm eating it so, yeah. I could put it in the fridge and eat it later. You could. You're right. I could.

Michelle Graves: So I have a question about that. So do most people have the brain power, or do they know-

Jeff Harding: Intestinal fortitude.

Michelle Graves: Well, just those markers that you've indicated. Or do you have to teach people, some people, to know when they're hungry and to know when they're full?

Julie Hansen: Oh, yeah. I have to teach them. Yeah, there's a lot of people that have, for many years, haven't felt anything. So we try to get them to feel that, and there's a lot of reasons for that I won't go into. But again, they just disconnected.

Michelle Graves: So they don't really have a turn on?

Julie Hansen: Exactly.

Michelle Graves: A turn on or a turn off switch? So do you do it mostly by saying this is a portion. Try to feel satisfied at that portion.

Julie Hansen: I try to start with that. Yeah, and I do think, for me, myself, and I always prepackage my trail mix. I always prepackage my nuts because I think it's hard to eat out of a large container. I do that with people to help, number one, slow them down, and you know when you were talking about the weighted fork, well that's really ... or weighted utensils, there's also some you can get that have a red light and a green light.

Michelle Graves: Really?

Julie Hansen: Because eating too quickly ... I don't know why Jeff, but I'm guessing you might. I don't really know that.

Jeff Harding: I definitely do.

Julie Hansen: But I'm guessing you might be a fast eater.

Jeff Harding: I am.

Julie Hansen: So eating too quickly is also not really tasting your food, or even realizing that you've eaten. Right? So that's another part of this.

Jeff Harding: Let me explain though. Let me explain. I grew up in a family of four boys in four years.

Julie Hansen: Yes. Yes.

Jeff Harding: So there was lots of competition at the dinner table if you didn't eat fast, you didn't get seconds. And you didn't get what you wanted the first time around because you had to make sure the next people down the line got some food.

Julie Hansen: I know. Jeff, I've heard it. I know. I know.

Jeff Harding: So that's what I grew up in.

Michelle Graves: I have a feeling she has heard it all.

Jeff Harding: I believe you have. So if you're just trying to get-

Julie Hansen: But that's practice. So it's just practice and be more mindful when you're eating. But for you, I would sit down ...You're really gonna have to go eat a Costa Vida burrito, right? You're gonna cut it in half before you start eating, and you can just blog about that or something. You can send me an email. I want to hear about your experience.

Michelle Graves: Maybe you should put the other half away. Cover it up. Put it in the car. Then enjoy the first half.

Jeff Harding: Well the problem is, it's not really a burrito-

Julie Hansen: Split it with somebody.

Jeff Harding: But it's more the portions I get.

Michelle Graves: We're here to solve all your problems today, Jeff.

Jeff Harding: I see that.

Julie Hansen: Yes. It's about you, Jeff.

Jeff Harding: So if you're just joining us, you're listening to the Huntsman World Senior Games Active Life on St. George News 1450 am, and we're visiting with Julie Hansen, who is a registered dietitian. I almost said doctor, but you're not a Ph.D yet.

Julie Hansen: That's okay.

Jeff Harding: Julie Hansen who's a registered dietitian and exercise physiologist, and we're talking about eating. There's something I want to ask you a question. I know that you're a dietitian for an athletic program in northern Utah, Weber State University.

Julie Hansen: Correct.

Jeff Harding: So do you find that the athletes who actually listen and follow your advice perform better on the field than those that don't. Is there a direct correlation between following advice and performance?

Julie Hansen: Yes. Yes. I do have a really good story about this. So we had a thrower, a female thrower. She was throwing the javelin, and she had been told to restrict her carbohydrates. But she wasn't really feeling very good. So she came in to see me. We changed all that, and she set a personal record. So it really, it happens a lot, and a lot of times, I work with some of the football team. Sometimes they need to gain weight. Sometimes they need to lose weight, but I remember one year we had a group. We called ourselves the big, bold and beautiful. They were supposed to lose weight. So we did intuitive eating. That's what I did with them. I taught them to pay attention to their hunger and fullness because that's gonna carry them the rest of their lives. They don't have to worry too much about going on and off a diet, and it worked really well. They did well. So intuitive eating is so great for athletes because they have that ability to feel their bodies, usually.

Jeff Harding: You know, and I find that if I eat mindlessly, I will eat a whole lot more to where I feel like I'm going to explode. But if I am conscious of my eating, then I do stop.

Michelle Graves: Well, and I find that I eat distracted a lot more than I used to. So I think all of those points, I feel like we've been picking on Jeff a little bit, but I think there's so many like us.

Jeff Harding: I need it.

Michelle Graves: That really suffer, and maybe don't even suffer. They don't even know that they're not eating intuitively. They're eating distracted. They're eating not being mindful of these things. So good advice.

Jeff Harding: So it sounds like we kind of need to make peace with the food we're eating.

Julie Hansen: Exactly. Oh, that is so great, and that again, is really a hard thing. So again, most of my athletes I had to coach them into adding carbohydrates back in. I have a client right now who was a golfer, and now is wanting to do Iron Man Triathlons. He's not gonna make it if he doesn't eat his carbohydrates. So we're really trying to work through that. He's been ... I mean, this is very typical. They do a lot of restricting. I just don't even know how that happens all the time.

Michelle Graves: So talk to us-

Julie Hansen: And I have a couple ... yeah?

Michelle Graves: Oh, I didn't mean to cut you off. So talk to us a little bit, and you probably are headed down this path, but talk to us a little bit about exercise and the difference in diets for different kinds of exercise. I think that's interesting.

Julie Hansen: So really, when I do a diet prescription for an athlete, it's based on their body weight and their time and intensity of exercise. So it's sort of the same prescription, if you will, but of course, a sprint triathlete versus an Iron Man triathlete, the difference is going to be quantity. It's going to be the same diet as a basketball player versus a soccer player. It's gonna be, again, time on the field, time on the court. That's how I'm gonna determine their nutrition needs. So the overall prescription doesn't really change, it's just how much time are they being active. Does that answer your question?

Michelle Graves: Yeah, that does. And can you talk a little bit about hydration, in terms of that as well.

Julie Hansen: Yes. And especially as we age, hydration is so important. I mean, your muscles are 75% water. So think about that. They aren't gonna contract very well if they're dehydrated. So it's fluid all the time. I mean drinking at least one and a half cups of water to two cups of water 30 to 40 minutes before exercise, and then a cup every fifteen minutes. I mean, it's really something you have to practice because we always sometimes don't really have that drive to drink fluids.

Julie Hansen: And sports drinks too can be very helpful for people that are exercising over 30 minutes and in the heat. There's also, because they have a lot of sodium and some carbohydrates in there that also simulate our drive to drink. So that can actually be very helpful.

Michelle Graves: Interesting. Yeah, I think that heat does play a big role in what kind of hydration you're receiving.

Jeff Harding: Certainly.

Julie Hansen: Right.

Jeff Harding: Mostly your rate of perspiration there. Some people have small pores. They don't perspire very fast, but others who have large pores who perspire at a huge rate. And if you perspire at huge rate, you need to drink more water. I know that 'cause I'm a sieve. The water goes in, it just runs right out.

Julie Hansen: Salty sweater.

Jeff Harding: So I need to drink the water.

Julie Hansen: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Michelle Graves: Interesting. I think one of the fitness fads that's going away is to deprive yourself of hydration. I know for distance runners and things like that, they really try to train their body to not take in fluid, and now we're finding that you need it more than ever. Would you say that's true?

Julie Hansen: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You know now, with those new stainless steel water bottles, those are really helpful because they keep water cold. I think if you make sure you get the type of spout on it, if you will, that you don't have to twist off, people drink more. Does that make sense? So if you have to twist the top off, you're not gonna drink as much.

Jeff Harding: If you're involved in athletic activity, it's hard to twist the top off to get a drink as opposed to just pushing a button and getting a drink. So it makes a big difference.

Michelle Graves: Good point.

Julie Hansen: Yeah, I think as humans we do what's easy. That is part of it. If we have water in front of us, and it's cold, and we can drink it easily, we'll do it.

Jeff Harding: So we're running out of time, Julie. So there's just one more thing. Well, two more questions I want to ask you. First of all, just quickly, you've been to the Huntsman World Senior Games. What is your favorite aspect of the Huntsman World Senior Games?

Julie Hansen: I think the people I've met. I think a lot of people say that, but the people I've met. And also the chance to kind of have your high school career back.

Jeff Harding: Yes.

Michelle Graves: I see that too. I love that aspect.

Jeff Harding: Recapturing youth. Yep.

Julie Hansen: Yeah, yeah. You feel like you're an athlete again. You can do track and field and cycling. That's stuff I wouldn't really compete in.

Jeff Harding: And be competitive in it. And actually be competitive in.

Julie Hansen: Yeah. Exactly.

Jeff Harding: Right. And the last thing I want to talk about is, I understand you have a webinar coming up?

Julie Hansen: Yes, I have a webinar coming up that's going to talk a little bit more about sports nutrition and intuitive eating. So that's gonna be on September 13th, and Jeff, we can post a link to that on the podcast, the Facebook page.

Jeff Harding: On our Facebook page we can put. So yeah, for the link for the podcast on our Facebook page.

Julie Hansen: Free seminar. Yep.

Michelle Graves: Well we would love to do that because I feel like we've just brushed the surface, and the things that you've tutored us in are really easy and achievable. So it's been really interesting to talk to you today.

Julie Hansen: Yes. Thank you, Michelle. Thank you very much.

Jeff Harding: Well, Julie, thank you for joining us.

Julie Hansen: Okay. Alright. Okay. You guys have a good day.

Jeff Harding: You too. Take care. Well that is all the time we have for today. We'd like to thank Julie for joining us. Remember to join us each and every Thursday at 5:30 PM for the Huntsman World Senior Games Active Life on St. George News Radio 1450 AM. You can also listen to this or any of our shows at You can also subscribe to our podcast. Just search for Huntsman World Senior Games Active Life in Google Play Store, or the iTunes and subscribe.

Jeff Harding: And 2018 is flying by. We have over 10,000 registered athletes as of this morning. So registration closes September 1st. The time to get registered is now. Today. Don't delay, and you don't want to miss opening ceremonies on October 9th at Trailblazer Stadium or the concert celebration on October 16th in Burns Arena.

Michelle Graves: I'm getting excited, Jeff. It's kind of like Christmas coming up. It's like-

Jeff Harding: It is. It's gonna fun.

Michelle Graves: I can feel it in the air.

Jeff Harding: Yeah. We have a lot of great stuff. Both those shows are free to the public, and it's gonna be some great entertainment. We always have an Olympic style opening ceremonies at the Trailblazer Stadium, and we also have a great show called The Famous Unknowns. They'll be performing a Vegas type revue that'll be at the Burns Arena for the concert celebration. So it'll be a lot of fun.

Michelle Graves: They are great shows. They are a lot of fun.

Jeff Harding: And they're terrific family entertainment.

Michelle Graves: Yes, we encourage you all to come. Fly in, even if you're not playing in the games.

Jeff Harding: Yes, just come on and join us. And if you have any comments or feedback about our show, we'd love to hear from you. Just send an email to And now Michelle, are you ready for the quote for the day?

Michelle Graves: I've been waiting.

Jeff Harding: This is by Eleanor Roosevelt. It says, "Happiness is not a goal. It's a by-product."

Michelle Graves: Love it.

Jeff Harding: It's great, isn't it?

Michelle Graves: Have a great day.

Jeff Harding: Until next time, stay active everyone. See you later.

Michelle Graves: Bye-bye.