It’s a fair question. After all, we find added sugars in so many of our favorite foods. In this week’s episode, Kyle and Jeff talk about several tell-tale signs that you might be addicted to the sweet stuff. We also visit with Dr. Rhett Frei about Lifestyle Medicine. This is a very interesting take on a couple of important topics. Go and check it out at the Huntsman World Senior Games Active life Podcast.

 

Kyle Case:
(singing)

Kyle Case:
Hello, and welcome to the Huntsman World Senior Games Active Life. My name is Kyle Case, and I'll be your host on this amazing journey, as we attempt to help you get the most out of your life. Joining me in the studio today is my co-pilot, Jeff Harding. Jeff, how are you doing today?

Jeff Harding:
I am finally feeling a little dry.

Kyle Case:
Because, you have been sick, and you have had this congestion.

Jeff Harding:
Yes. My head is clearing up. I have lost Lou Rawls. I don't have him anymore. I don't know where he went, but he is not with me. So, I'm feeling dry in my head.

Kyle Case:
I think I'm glad, I should be glad, right? That is a good thing.

Jeff Harding:
Well, yeah, because I am not contagious around the office or anything ...

Kyle Case:
That is a good thing. That is definitely a good thing -

Jeff Harding:
Very much so.

Kyle Case:
Jeff, I want to ask you a question -

Jeff Harding:
Alright.

Kyle Case:
... and I want you to be honest. How do you feel about sugar?

Jeff Harding:
We have a great relationship.

Kyle Case:
Do you feel like you have a pretty healthy relationship with sugar?

Jeff Harding:
We are really tight, we are like this. You can't see it, but I kept my fingers crossed. Yes, we are really tight.

Kyle Case:
Here's a problem, I don't know if it's your problem, but here is a problem with sugar -

Jeff Harding:
Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Kyle Case:
... Not only can it add pounds to your waist and to your frame, but research shows that it can also boost cardiovascular disease, the risk of cardiovascular disease, Type 2 diabetes, it may even increase the risk for some Cancers, as well.

Jeff Harding:
You know, Kyle, some things are just worth it.

Kyle Case:
Maybe you have a point there, maybe you do, I don't know.

Jeff Harding:
No, no, I'm just kidding.

Kyle Case:
But today, I want to talk a little bit about sugar addiction. Do you feel like you are addicted to sugar?

Jeff Harding:
I think there have been times when I have been, where I have just craved it so much that right now, we kind of have a love-hate relationship, I love to hate it, but I hate to love it -

Kyle Case:
But you hate to love it, yeah, I understand that. I feel like I'm kind of the same way, but listen our brains can rewire themselves -

Jeff Harding:
Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Kyle Case:
... to crave sugar, and you can end up with some problems when it comes to sugar addiction. So, they say that sugar addiction is a measurable, physiological phenomenon that many people suffer from, this is from Dr. Ken Berry, who is the author of a book called, Lies my Doctor Told Me. So, here is a few signs, Jeff, that you might be addicted to sugar, and this is again according to an article that I found in Reader's Digest.

Jeff Harding:
Okay, before you get to that can I just tell you my sign?

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Jeff Harding:
When you have your cold cereal, your breakfast cereal in the morning, and there's a bunch of sugar at the bottom of the bowl when you are done eating it. You're probably addicted to sugar cause that...

Kyle Case:
Is that your sign?

Jeff Harding:
That was, that was as a kid yeah I put so much sugar in there'd be at least a spoon full left in the bottom of the bowl when I was done eating it-

Kyle Case:
Yeah, that's probably not good for you.

Jeff Harding:
...No, it was good, but not good for me-

Kyle Case:
It was good, but not good for you.

Jeff Harding:
...Yeah.

Kyle Case:
Here we go, really quickly.

Jeff Harding:
All right.

Kyle Case:
Some signs that you may be addicted to sugar.

Kyle Case:
Number 1, you hide your sugar habit.

Kyle Case:
Has that ever happened, Jeff?

Jeff Harding:
Yeah.

Kyle Case:
Yeah, so some people with the sugar addiction may recognize that they are eating too much, but instead of finding ways to cut back, they just hide it, and here's the cold hard truth. No one hides broccoli in their closet am I right?

Jeff Harding:
No.

Kyle Case:
If you're hiding sweets or you're sneaking to eat them. You may be addicted to sugar.

Jeff Harding:
Okay.

Kyle Case:
Number 2-

Jeff Harding:
Hi, I'm Jeff, and I'm a sugar addict.

Kyle Case:
...Yeah, this is going to be hard for both of us. Let's just be honest.

Kyle Case:
You need more and more to satisfy the craving.

Jeff Harding:
No, that's not the case.

Kyle Case:
That's not true, okay, well if many addictive behaviors of substances your tolerance to sweets may build up over time. First one scoop of ice cream is what you need, and that does the trick, but as you become more and more addicted. You need more and more-

Jeff Harding:
Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Kyle Case:
..And you end up eating more and more, and that creates that cycle-

Jeff Harding:
Right

Kyle Case:
..Of a problem.

Kyle Case:
Here's another one, you eat sugar even when you're not hungry. You ever did that?

Jeff Harding:
Well... yeah-

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Jeff Harding:
...What's the purpose of sugar if you don't eat it when you're not hungry?

Kyle Case:
So if you're stuffed after a big meal, but somehow you still have room for a great big slice of cake.

Jeff Harding:
Well yeah.

Kyle Case:
That's a problem.

Jeff Harding:
Yeah okay.

Kyle Case:
That's a problem.

Jeff Harding:
Soda pop for me is very easy.

Kyle Case:
The number 1 sign that you may have an addiction is that you're turning to sugar when you're not physically hungry.

Kyle Case:
Here's another one that's very relaxed, you always crave sweets after a sugar binge, you're blood sugar will fall because insulin takes all that sugar and it shoves it into your cells to prevent sugar damage, but that fall causes low blood sugar, and more cravings and then again you enter that cycle.

Kyle Case:
Here's another one that's interesting a sign that you may be addicted to sugar, and that is that you crave salty foods, and the reason for that is because your body is probably not getting the nutrition that it needs, so it surprisingly common among those that are addicted to sugary foods because these people are often deficient in some of the key nutrients. If you find yourself regularly eating sugary snacks, you're probably not eating enough of the healthy proteins and fats that your body needs. So cravings for salty and savory foods are one way that your body might be telling you to take a break from the sugar and eat something that's a little bit more nutritious.

Kyle Case:
Interestingly enough the inverse is also true if you eat too much salty food you might find yourself craving sugary foods or simple carbohydrates and the key is a balance-

Jeff Harding:
Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Kyle Case:
... right as it is with everything.

Jeff Harding:
Yeah.

Kyle Case:
Another indicator that you may be addicted to sugar is that you know the potential consequences of eating to much sugar, but you eat it anyway.

Jeff Harding:
Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Jeff Harding:
Do you know that dramatic pause? He was looking at me folks, he was looking right at me.

Kyle Case:
Like I said Jeff, this is for both of us. Right, I'm looking in the-

Jeff Harding:
Yeah.

Kyle Case:
.. mirror really.

Kyle Case:
Also, you go out of your way to get sugar if you're making special late night trips to the gas station to pick up a pint of ice cream. You should take a hard look at your priorities, this is according to the addiction center. It's a clear sign that sugar is maybe spinning out of control in the conception area for you if you're waking up at 2 in the morning, and heading to the gas station-

Jeff Harding:
Yeah.

Kyle Case:
.. for a fix. That's not you.

Jeff Harding:
That does not happen, no.

Kyle Case:
Yeah, you stay asleep.

Kyle Case:
Well, you wake up early-

Jeff Harding:
Well yeah.

Kyle Case:
.. and go walking.

Jeff Harding:
I get up at 4:30 anyways-

Kyle Case:
Yeah, so your.

Jeff Harding:
... so why get up at-

Kyle Case:
Do

Jeff Harding:
..so why get up at 2 o'clock anyways?

Kyle Case:
Do you walk to the gas station to get a pint of ice cream?

Jeff Harding:
I walk in the opposite direction of the gas station.

Kyle Case:
Okay.

Jeff Harding:
There's no gas station where I walked.

Kyle Case:
All right, awesome.

Kyle Case:
So today's guest is Dr. Rhett Frei, Dr. Frei is a doctor of osteopathic medicine he's currently working at Intermountain Healthcare in the urgent care setting as well as in the live well center. Dr. Frei has 4 amazing children and loves being active here in southern Utah. Dr. Frei, thank you for taking a minute to join us on the show today.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Your welcome, thanks for having me.

Kyle Case:
So someone in the medical field, what do you think sugar addiction is it really is any of those signs ringing in true or is it all just a myth?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Well, thanks for-

Jeff Harding:
He looks guilty. I have to add that he looks guilty.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
I was going to say, thanks for making me feel like I'm back in medical school again with sitting in lectures about all this, but yes I mean in my opinion it's something that's real. I've even read study's that show there are changes in our brain physiology with things like this.

Kyle Case:
Yeah and really that's the problem, that's the hard part, that's the problem of addition if you're rewiring your brain. The beautiful thing about our brains though, and about additions, in general, is that they are overcomeable like we can do it and if you're feeling that you're having an addition to sugar or any other thing I don't think you should lose hope, I don't think you should give up. There is hope out there and it's possible to overcome, but yeah it's tough. Especially with something so readily available as sugar because it's everywhere.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yes-

Kyle Case:
Right.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
... it's very easy to get our hands on so-

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
... it sounds like there's hope for you Jeff.

Jeff Harding:
Thank you, Dr. Frei I feel much better now.

Kyle Case:
Maybe a little hope for all of us.

Kyle Case:
Today Dr. Frei we want to talk a little bit about something called lifestyle medicine. Let's just get right into the basics of that. How would you define lifestyle medicine?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Well first of all Kyle, have you heard of lifestyle medicine?

Kyle Case:
Well, probably not in that-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Not in that.

Kyle Case:
... in that context I guess.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
What about you?

Jeff Harding:
Not that combination of words, I mean I understand the concept. I can see the concept-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Jeff Harding:
... but I haven't really heard it described that way.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah. Well, I think it's kind of a new phrase, maybe in the last decade or so that it's been thrown around in the medical field. Basically, it's a way that we use our behaviors or the way that we live our lifestyles in order to cure diseases or prevent diseases, and a big part of it is that its evidence-based, and you hear that word a lot in medicine. Evidence-based means there's actual research that's been done behind it which shows benefit. Some people say hey this might work for that, this might work for that, take this supplement for that, and if it's not evidence-based you don't know if it's going to work or not. It could, but it might not, but that's a big part behind lifestyle medicine, is it's an evidence-based approach on how it can change our behavior to live healthier lives.

Jeff Harding:
That without using necessarily the pharmaceutical chemicals.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yes, correct I like using pharmaceutical chemicals.

Kyle Case:
I love it because as you said there's so much advice, and I'm using air quotes, but so much advice out there and-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
I saw those air quotes.

Kyle Case:
... much of it is anecdotal, you know?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Kyle Case:
I started taking this supplement one day, and now my life is changed and maybe that's the placebo effect, maybe it's the supplement. We don't know, but to have something that is evidence-based, is based on legitimate studies with, you know many people over a period of time. It feels like those are the kind of things that you can rely on, you can look at and say there's, I can have some confidence in this.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah, and I think that's a big part of it, is its a feeling that it's new, it's growing. They're doing research all the time, and they're seeing such great benefits that we'll talk about later on, not only in our lives but just the health care system as well.

Kyle Case:
And I really appreciate that as a trend because I feel like, for so long medicine was all about treating the symptoms, treating the disease, and rightfully so because that's the problem right?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah.

Kyle Case:
So you got to get after that.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Kyle Case:
But I love how there's so much more emphasis, as you said maybe recently over the last decade or so that's being placed on lifestyle choices and decisions that we can make. That can keep us away from the diseases, that can keep us away from the problems.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Kyle Case:
So yeah, I love that as a practice I think it's very interesting from a medical standpoint because its almost like as a doctor you're kind of trying to work yourself out of a job. A little bit right?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah, in a way yeah.

Kyle Case:
I mean yeah we're talking long effects of it-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Sure.

Kyle Case:
... but I appreciate the integrity of that concept because it'd be very easy to just say, "oh doctors are all out to get money, so they're trying to keep us sick, so we're going to the doctor", and so I love this concept and I love this idea of lifestyle changes preventive concepts and ideas that can keep us healthy, and away from the big major problems that are going to be life changing in so many ways. From financial to emotional too-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Kyle Case:
...To families and all kinds of things, so I do love that, and you've decided to jump into that with both feet. That's the area that you practice, so how do you practice that? Like as a doctor, how do you go about practicing lifestyle medicine?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Well, one approach is I think you have to work with people who want it, have a desire for it-

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
...Because it's a difficult process.

Kyle Case:
Just like sugar.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah, it's something that I think takes a lot of, the word I like to use is proactive

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
It's a proactive approach, rather than a reactive approach so that reactivity is something that we get used to in medicine. You see someone has a cough, you see someone has pain, you see someone you know is developing some type of condition and you react to that, but lifestyle medicine we're more proactive, we say, "hey what can we do so in 10 years from now I'm living a life that I want to live.", and so that's how you practice lifestyle medicine as you look and say, "here's where I am now, where do I want to be in 10 or 20 years, what do I want to be doing at that time, and what things do I need to do now and throughout those years to be where I want to be in 20 or 30 years?".

Dr. Rhett Frei:
So that's how I like to approach it and practice it and say and it is going to be individual what works for you Kyle, might not work for Jeff, or someone else. Everyone has their different interest, and different desires on where they want to be in life, and so it's an individual approach, and so I think those are two big concepts is one its individualized and two its a proactive approach in medicine

Kyle Case:
So I think for most of us again because the culture has been, you go to the doctor when you're sick-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Kyle Case:
... you go to the doctor when there's a problem-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Kyle Case:
I think what you're seeing a lot more now is in some degree I think that it's also based on you know liability and litigation, and stuff like that, but you see here's a health program, exercise program, whatever it is, but you should consult your doctor before you start. Like we here that a lot, do you see people coming into you saying, " Hey, I've read about this thing and I'm going to start it, I just wanted to check in with you.", or how do you connect with people that are ready to make these lifestyle changes, and are ready to jump into that lifestyle?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
A lot of what I've seen is people maybe are going through a change in life, maybe their becoming a parent, maybe their approaching retirement, maybe their going to make a big move. There are certain changes in our life that I think, change our perspective, change our focus, and that's a big part of it. Are they say, "hey", a lot of times I hear, "Hey, I want to be around for my grandkids, I just had my first grandkid, or had my first child."...

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
... and so they look through life through a different lens now, and they say, "You know I want to be around when they get married in 20 years.". You know or sometimes people will come and they say, "Hey, I just, I don't like the way that I'm feeling, I don't like the way I'm looking in the mirror anymore. Things are changing in my life throughout these years, and I want to do things to make sure this doesn't continue to change." So I think there's always some spark or some change in our life, or perspective that pushes us to make that change, and approach me rather than you know picking up an exercise DVD, and it says at the first go talk to your doctor before you do this. I don't see a lot of that-

Kyle Case:
You don't see a lot of those.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
I don't see a lot of those, but I think its more in your life there's an emotional change.

Kyle Case:
And I think that makes a lot of sense.

Kyle Case:
You're listening to the Huntsman World Senior Games Active Live, and we're visiting with Dr. Rhett Frei.

Kyle Case:
Today we're talking about lifestyle medicine, and what that means and what that might look like to a medical consumer.

Kyle Case:
Let's say someone comes into your office with one of these as you said, maybe it's a lifestyle change, or it's a momentous thing has happened and they start thinking about the future. What's the first step, how do you help people down that right path?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Well first, me personally, I ask them to fill out a lot of paperwork before they come in.

Kyle Case:
Okay.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
I have a lot of paperwork that looks at various domains of your life. We ask about your physical activity level, we ask about your stress levels, we ask about your occupation, we ask about your sleep, we ask about your diet. So that's the first thing, and I always apologize say, "Hey, sorry I made you fill out 10 pages of paper.", but I want to get to know them, and I want to get to know different parts of their life because then I think that helps us decide where do we go from here, how can we make beneficial changes for you. So that's where I usually start.

Kyle Case:
And I know you mentioned, and it has to be personalized-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Sure.

Kyle Case:
... It has to be built around an individual, but what are some of the basic things that any of us could look at, or should look at as far as trying to like you said to meet these life goals, I want to be here in 20 years-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Kyle Case:
...when my kid gets married-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Kyle Case:
...or when my grandchild is born or whatever it is.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah, well I think, you know there's some people use, you know three domains, six domains, nine domains, of things that I like to look at like I was saying before. I think one main domain is healthy relationships and stress-

Kyle Case:
Okay.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
... and sleep, I think those are things that a lot of times we can take for granted, and if those aren't, I guess you can say, functioning well in our lives, they can affect our physical health, they can affect our mental health, they can affect our emotional health. I even was listening to a lecture the other day that someone mentioned how even the fresh air outside can make a benefit to the way we feel about life. So all these little things that you know, we may not look at, and how it can affect our body and our behavior. Maybe we should look at a little bit more intensely.

Kyle Case:
Yeah, I totally agree, and it's interesting you mentioned some of the reoccurring things that we end up talking about on the show a lot. Relationships, something that a lot of times we take that for granted-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Right.

Kyle Case:
... but a good healthy relationship, a connection a human connection with other people can be so beneficial. Not only emotionally which it is emotional, but physically there are physical benefits to having relationships, friendships, connections, human connections, and then you mentioned sleep is another one that we end up talking a lot about on the show because again it's something I think for a long time we've either taken it for granted or we've, the other extreme is we've lost the importance of it, and again you know you think well I had a bad night sleep so that means I'm going to nod off a little bit at work in the afternoon, but there are long term health benefits to getting a lot of sleep, and there are considerable challenges that can come from not getting enough sleep. Not the least of which is Alzheimer's and dementia, and other real challenges, so those are, they seem like they're two areas where people can jump right in and say, "Okay, these are the areas I'm going to work on."

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah, and given that they know Huntsman Senior Worlds Game some of that background to is in sports medicine. You'd be interested at how many athletes come to me just because they're feeling fatigued with their exercise levels, you know and they're looking towards supplements, they're looking towards what they're eating what they're drinking, and a lot of times when we really get into it is they may not be focusing so much on recovery.

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
We think so much about performance and what can we do to perform better as athletes a lot of times when I meet with these athletes we find out hey it's probably your sleep and your sleep cycles is why you're not performing as well, and so it's a different approach, it's a different view on saying, "Hey you need to recover well and get good quality sleep, or you're not going to be the athlete that you could be. No matter what you're doing, no matter how you're exercising-

Kyle Case:
Put in more laps, hit that ball, whatever it is-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah.

Kyle Case:
..if you're not getting the sleep.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
...'cause that's when you're going to recover. There are certain hormones that are released in deep stages of sleep that help our body recover so we can perform to the best of our ability.

Kyle Case:
Excellent, I love that from an athletic standpoint, and again just from an overall wellness standpoint. Areas that are super important too-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah.

Kyle Case:
... to take a look at.

Kyle Case:
Now, do you recommend, that you mentioned a lot of people are looking at supplements for things like that? Is that something that you take a look at and say that makes a lot of sense, or can we get the nutrients we need from our food? I know there's kind of a debate about that, what's your take on that based on your experiences that you've had?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
I think the majority of people I don't know if I'd have a number, but I'd say you know the high majority of people can get what they need through foods.

Kyle Case:
If we do it the right way-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Correct way.

Kyle Case:
... if we're eating donuts-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
No!

Kyle Case:
... and Snickers bars we're not getting anything

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Whole foods, unprocessed, grown from the ground. I tell people to get as close to the earth as you can.

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
You know if that candy bar is growing out of the earth great-

Kyle Case:
Eat it.

Jeff Harding:
What if you lay down on the ground while you eat your candy bar does that count?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Probably does count, yeah, but yeah I mean there are incidents you know that supplements can be beneficial. You know specifically if people aren't absorbing things or have certain restrictions in their diets where they might need a supplement with certain products, so that, I think those are more individual cases. I think from a general population approach. I think we can get what we need through whole foods, unprocessed products. Those types of things.

Kyle Case:
I've mentioned this before, but I think it's worth mentioning again, someone once told me that the best place to do your shopping is around the outside of the grocery store, and if you think about the way that the stores are laid out for the most part that's where you find your produce, you know your whole foods, the dairy's, the meats, the fruits, the vegetables all those kinds of things that are, but the whole foods unprocessed you get down into the isles and that's where you find your chips and your cookies and you know bread and-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
The good stuff.

Kyle Case:
All this stuff that taste good for sure, but that makes a lot of sense as close to the ground as you can, and the outside of the grocery store. It seems like that makes sense.

Kyle Case:
Let's talk just a second about physical activity, when we think about you know longevity and you know living that the active life, and living the kind of life that we want. You have to consider exercise in there, what exercise advice do you have for people who are trying to live that active life?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Usually what I'd tell people is to do what you enjoy-

Kyle Case:
Yeah.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
... because if you do not do what you enjoy, you will not continue to do it. Sometimes people would like you to know a very laid out detailed prescription on hey do I need to run 30 minutes per day for 5 days per week for the rest of my life-

Kyle Case:
Even though I hate running.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
... Yes and there are certain recommendations that are thrown out there, you know the American college of sports medicine does say 150 minutes of moderate intensity physical activity per week, so that would be 30 minutes, 5 days a week. If you would do a vigorous effort that's 75 minutes a week, so there are some recommendations out there that say do this amount per this length of time and you're going to get the most benefit, but usually what I'll tell people as I said initially just do what you enjoy, make sure you're getting your heart rate up, find those activities that you will be able to continue to do or its not going to be successful.

Kyle Case:
And I think another thing that I have found for me and it seems like it translates to a lot of people is competition is a motivator, you know if you sign up for a race you tend to get ready for that race, if you sign up for a tennis tournament you tend to get ready for that tennis tournament-

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Or wrestling tournament.

Kyle Case:
... I was just going to say, I registered and participated in the US open wrestling tournament a couple of weeks ago-

Jeff Harding:
And you won two matches.

Kyle Case:
... And I got, I did win two matches, thank you.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Out of how many?

Speaker 5:
Out of four.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Oh okay, out of four.

Kyle Case:
Out of four, but leading up to that like I was working out really hard getting ready for it, but I was really enjoying my workouts. You know it was hard, and I was breathing heavy and you know whatever there's all the pain that was involved in that, but I was enjoying it, but I've got to admit like now that the tournament is over. It's harder to get up in the morning and get out there, so I again I feel like that competition can be a real motivator, and that's something that we are proud to provide at Huntsman World Senior Games for people who are looking for that opportunity.

Kyle Case:
Awesome, well Dr. Frei, thank you so much for taking a minute out of your day to spend some time with us. You've offered some great advice, good counsel, a take a look at lifestyle medicine it is definitely the trend something that I think that is going be where we go in the healthcare world, and congratulations for being a part of the movement.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Oh, well thank you. Thank you, Kyle, thanks for having me. Congratulations on your wrestling

Kyle Case:
Thank you!

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Jeff good luck on the sugar.

Jeff Harding:
He ended with a black eye.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Oh, he did?

Kyle Case:
I did, it is better now though so.

Jeff Harding:
First one since he was a teenager.

Dr. Rhett Frei:
No since the last year

Kyle Case:
Since last year?

Dr. Rhett Frei:
Yeah, thanks for having me.

Kyle Case:
Awesome, thank you!

Kyle Case:
So, Jeff now is the time speaking of motivation and competition as a motivator, now is the time to register for the Huntsman World Senior Games

Jeff Harding:
Right, what better a motivation? If you sign up then you have to do it.

Kyle Case:
Yeah, registration is open, you can again use that as that motivator. We have well over 4,000 registered participants right now. Which is great, that's a lot of people were hoping to reach about 11,000. We think that we are going to reach that.

Jeff Harding:
Yep.

Kyle Case:
It's very easy to register, just visit seniorgames.net you click on the register button, the process is very simple. It's fast it's secure-

Jeff Harding:
It's painless

Kyle Case:
...It's painless, and before you know it. You'll be able to use the Huntsman World Senior Games as your motivator to get out there and live the active life.

Kyle Case:
The dates for the 2019 Huntsman World Senior Games are, October 7th through the 19th of October. Remember to tune in live next to and every Thursday at 5:30 p.m. mountain time on being 14-50 or fm 93.1 for the Huntsman World Senior Games active live. You can also subscribe to our podcast anywhere the podcast are found, once you've subscribed go ahead and give us a rating, write a quick review. That can really make a difference in helping us spread the word, you can also find this as well as previous shows right on our website. That website is once again Seniorgames.net so check it out.

Kyle Case:
Our inspirational quote for the day Jeff comes from one of my favorite musical artists

Jeff Harding:
Oh boy.

Kyle Case:
Dierks Bentley, he says-

Jeff Harding:
Oh, I wasn't prepared for that.

Kyle Case:
... yeah, "it just took a little step, a right, then a left, then a couple million more, who's counting, it was only a mountain."

Jeff Harding:
Whoa.

Kyle Case:
Until next Thursday, stay active. Bye, everyone!